And if it doesn’t then you shouldn’t force the issue.”, “We really enjoy it. I have had countless amazing experiences in music, from tea with Neil Young and hanging in a limo with Stevie Wonder to drinking beer bongs with the Foo Fighters in Vegas and being onstage with Skrillex. And we properly got in the van and did that whole thing. Tankian: It’s a weapon you can use for good if you want to. Boyd: Do you remember being on Snocore with Mr. Bungle? Tankian: The reason I was asking about India and South Korea, we’ve never played there. It’s like you just do make lots of things and it’s amazing. Serj Tankian: You’re right, you start thinking about it. Tankian: All I remember was neither Mike nor I could sleep on a bus, I still can’t. It was really fun though. Essentially it’s insinuating that it’s the dark part of having talent, it’s the shadow aspect. The Armenia stuff is the perfect example because I don’t deserve that kind of attention there. We would be on the side of stage cheering, fanboys. Tankian: Wow, so was this one giant tour? I personally think that it helps. As of June 2020, the song has over 327 million views on YouTube. Boyd: Yeah (laughs). Human bites are really bad. I honestly don’t know if bands are doing that anymore. The song reached number 27 on the US Billboard Hot 100, the band's highest peak to date on the chart. Boyd: It is, I had to wait until it was napping. But we did get a chance to finally go play in India. We’ve become better friends and closer with each other because of it.”. I haven’t seen you in a couple of months. How’s the family?’ And we have fun, we’re out there. Brandon Boyd entrevista a Serj Tankian en Forbes por Juan Aug 2, 2018 Serj Tankian ha sido muy elocuente sobre la falta de nuevas canciones en System Of A Down. (Photo by Tim Mosenfelder/Getty Images), Last week I ran part one of my epic, hour-long conversation with Incubus frontman Brandon Boyd and System Of A Down frontman Serj Tankian. Boyd: I do know that the way both System and Incubus came up was decidedly old school if you look at it from today’s perspective. (, https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevebaltin/2018/08/01/incubus-brandon-boyd-and-system-of-a-downs-serj-tankian-open-up-on-fame-music-touring-and-more/, EY & Citi On The Importance Of Resilience And Innovation, Impact 50: Investors Seeking Profit — And Pushing For Change. While System Of A Down drummer managed to land cameos from Avenged Sevenfold‘s M. Shadows, Rage Against The Machine‘s Tom Morello and his own System Of A Down bandmate Serj Tankian on his forthcoming These Grey Men covers album, there’s a few musicians he couldn’t manage to lock-in.. I don’t think there’s one country in the world where this is not a big thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_of_a_Down, System of a Down (@systemofadown) | Twitter, System Of A Down (@systemofadown) • Instagram photos and videos, Why System of a Down Haven’t Put Out an Album in 13 Years – Rolling Stone, https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/why-system-of-a-down-havent-put-out-an-album-in-13-years-699076/, Serj Tankian Takes Responsibility for System of a Down’s Hiatus | Consequence of Sound, https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/07/serj-tankian-i-was-responsible-for-system-of-a-downs-hiatus/, Incubus' Brandon Boyd And System Of A Down's Serj Tankian Open Up On Fame, Music, Touring And More, https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevebaltin/2018/08/01/incubus-brandon-boyd-and-system-of-a-downs-serj-tankian-open-up-on-fame-music-touring-and-more. Malakian recently called out frontman Serj Tankian, saying he was the reason they took a five-year break, as well as being the reason why they hadn’t recorded new material since. In part two of my exclusive joint conversation with Incubus lead vocalist Brandon Boyd and System Of A Down frontman Serj Tankian the two rock star singers open up … And you absorb because you’re doing so many things you’re absorbing from different sources. (They both laugh) That’s not a metaphor either. However, in 2010 a Manhattan court ruled Malakian and Tankian to be the sole writers of the song. The guitarist recently called out Serj Tankian for stopping the band from recording a new album. Barbarisms by Barbaras With pointed heels Victorious, victories kneel For brand new spankin' deals Marching forward hypocritic And hypnotic computers You depend on our protection Yet you feed us lies from the table cloth I kind of hope they are cause it’s a difficult experience, but it’s highly enriching. Like their earlier song "Boom! He had to go home and get a shot. I don’t know, whatever it is. Incubus and System Of A Down, two of the biggest rock bands of the past 25 years, have toured together multiple times. And that’s getting rarer and rarer as you do European festivals and this tour again and again. Boyd: We had the opportunity for sure to play too much. ", it was written in protest against the Iraq War. There are small advantages here and there, and you can use them for the betterment of the bigger picture situation, you can use your voice or that platform to create some form of meaningful change or propel your art further or push somebody else’s art up/ But there is a massive price tag. 10/16 – Phoenix, AZ @ Talking Stick Resort Arena Where did you play in India? Enter your cell phone number to download Cellular One ringtones now! And then at some point you start applying rationalization and all your cognitive thinking into the process. If you survive it you’re a survivor. And, god forbid, maybe you’ve been successful. We just can’t come to an agreement with that.”. That’s the one we let go because we would wake up and he would be talking really loud, yelling at other cars, “Get out of my way, I’m coming through.” And the bus broke down and he started kicking the bus. During the chorus, the band is shown playing inside a night club. Baltin: Talk about the differences you had coming up when you did versus now. System Of A Down last released an album in 2005 with the double LP ... Tankian was asked about the prospect of new music from his band by Incubus’ Brandon Boyd in an interview for Forbes. But we had some of the most interesting conversations. So you remember these things. Why do they always send the poor? And we got to Europe in a few weeks. We were there for like 10 days, all through Asia. The world's defining voice in music and pop culture since 1952. Baltin: Do you think all those experiences playing and growing with your bands is what’s allowed you guys to play together for 20-something years? (https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevebaltin/2018/08/01/incubus-brandon-boyd-and-system-of-a-downs-serj-tankian-open-up-on-fame-music-touring-and-more/). But it is what it is. The latest Tweets from System of a Down (@systemofadown). But when we’re playing live we’re like, ‘Hey, how have you been? And where the fuck are you?! Baltin: What were some of the most memorable experiences in those early days on the road? Royalty Case", "System of a Down Awards: BYOB, Question, Mezmerize", Australian-charts.com – System of a Down – B.Y.O.B. Tankian: (Laughs) So I see Keith [Flint] walking up, “Firestarter” dude with his head and I look at him and I go, “Go get them fires started.” I couldn’t help it. Like their earlier song "Boom! Boyd: We had mailing list get together's at Mike [Einziger’s] house. 25th June 2017 (Photo by Francesco Castaldo/Archivio Francesco Castaldo/Mondadori Portfolio via Getty Images), Valley Expo on May 25, 2018 in Napa, California. Actually, if you look over the years as a musicologist or a fan of music would, in any way, it’s probably regressive thinking.”, Boyd: “It’s true, if you feel vital, if it feels like you guys need to be together in a room then absolutely. Tankian: It’s awesome. I touched a cheetah. Boyd: “Are you guys working on new music?”, Tankian: “I don’t know if it is or isn’t. Baltin: Does that need for something new also influence your multiple creative outlets? Let’s talk about Spain. There’s no brain thing going on, it’s just enjoying it and doing it. Once this guy got sent home because he bit one of our tech guys, like proper bite marks on the arm. And it was so sandy or whatever it was. But also there’s no law that says a band should be together for a million years and have a million records. “Actually, if you look over the years as a musicologist or a fan of music would, in any way, it’s probably regressive thinking.”. ", when the soldiers storm the night club and force everyone to put on the drone masks, during which the masks show images of television shows and war. And we’re like, “Okay, how long is it gonna take to get this?” They don’t know.” We’re like, “Are they cancelling?”” They’re like, “No, no, no because the crowd flipped over a car and burned it. © 2020 NME is a member of the media division of BandLab Technologies. And we don't live in a fascist nation! There is something in American culture that we’ve always had an idol worship, or fame worship, and you see it in the people who are famous because they’re famous. So what you put out is a lot richer from all this other experience. Tankian: Yeah, a new venue. You may opt-out by. Another guy called us up at one point, “Guys, come here,” while going 60 MPH on the highway. Can someone explain that to me?”. While the band has put a pause on recording new music, it doesn’t seem that they are against touring with each other. Give me anything (laughs). (Photo by Tim Mosenfelder/Getty Images), Last week I ran part one of my epic, hour-long conversation with Incubus frontman Brandon Boyd and System Of A Down frontman Serj Tankian. Tankian: Oh, how was that? In part two, the two discuss how music has changed since they started as bands in vans, some crazy bus drivers, memorable shows together like Spain in 2005, the ups and downs of fame and much more. Boyd: Jose [Pasillas] and I would draw up flyers, we would write people’s physical addresses on them. "B.Y.O.B." But it happened a handful of times where you were like, “You guys need to listen to them. And these people were so happy cause they just got liberated and even though I don’t deserve them looking at me as if I’m important for the revolution, as long as they felt that was important and helped them in their inspiration, that they feel good about it, then it’s fine. System Of A Down’s Serj Tankian has been very vocal about the lack of new music from the band and the reasoning behind it. Boyd: That’s how it feels. But also there’s no law that says a band should be together for a million years and have a million records. System of a Down, sometimes abbreviated as SOAD or colloquially referred to as System, is an Armenian-American heavy metal band from Glendale, California, formed in 1994. There were songs I wanted to bring in but was hampered by unkept promises coupled by my own passivity at the time.”. Just like if someone takes a picture with you or me or anybody and walks away happy. Boyd: It’s like 10 well-placed “No’s” and two very-placed “Yeses.” You gotta scan the field, “Definitely no, how do I say no to that?’. Boyd still expects to have 21 of its 29 properties operational within the next week, according to a previous statement at the end of last week from its … Single by System of a Down from the album … I write about music and the business of music. That, to me, seems horrible. Tankian responded, confirming the guitarist’s story was true, saying he had “always felt continuing to do the same thing with the same people over time is artistically redundant, even for a dynamic outfit like ours.”, In a new interview with Metal Hammer, Malakian has reassured fans that, despite their creative differences, they all still get along. You can ready the full interview with Tankian and Boyd here. “In System of a Down, we’re not enemies,” he said. ", "System of a Down Chart History (Alternative Airplay)", "System of a Down Chart History (Mainstream Rock)", "Top AFP - Audiogest - Top 3000 Singles + EPs Digitais", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=B.Y.O.B._(song)&oldid=987309542, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, Akademie Mathematique of Philosophical Sound Research Studios, This page was last edited on 6 November 2020, at 05:48. Boyd:Yeah, last summer, which is technically the same tour, we did States. Casey Chaos claimed to have helped write the song in 2002, and Malakian gifted him a 2% royalties credit. Boyd: We played in Pune. It was so much fun. Tankian: Where did you guys tour this last year? System Of A Down Lyrics "B.Y.O.B." Boyd: Oh my god, we had some crazy bus drivers, ones we’ve had to send home. The more musicians I talk to the more awful it seems. There were crazy, crazy winds and they had one of those canopy tops. Speaking with Kerrang!, he revealed that he had tried to get Tool frontman Maynard James … The potential for what you do to be truly transcendent also gets higher, if you’re able to transcend all of these barriers and actually arrive at something that can be emotionally evocative to you, and maybe other people as well, then it’s even more of a triumph. Cause they would come out and Mike [Patton] would be a real rabble rouser, say horrible things to the audience. The music video shows an army of soldiers marching through the streets, wearing paintball masks with television screens projecting words like "DIE", "TRUTH", "OBEY", "BUY" or "GOD", with the members of System of a Down playing in the middle of the street. And, I think as we get older, depending on the circumstances that are accruing as we get older, we’re still flying by the seat of our pants, but we’re thinking about it now. There are more and more realizations like, “I don’t know what I’m doing.”. When not writing about music I am hanging with my dog, playing basketball and eating sushi in sunny Southern California. Tankian: We’re on those little RV beds and somebody hit the brakes and we probably flew out. We’ve been lucky enough to come from an era in rock and roll where it brings with it a modicum of “fame,” but not to the kind if we were in Led Zeppelin or the Stones. I think it’s important to really, really know what it is you want to do as an artist, because otherwise you’re just reacting to things coming at you. Boyd: Three times for us. In a recent interview with Forbes, Tankian opened up about the possibility of new music stating, “It’s gotta feel right.”. That’s the thing, over all these years, maybe we’re better friends because we haven’t made a record in 12 years. But, overall, I f**king hate it because I’d rather not deal with that and just do my work because we’re artists, this is what we do. Tankian: Replicating that success or whatever, that kind of self-applied pressure. See you this fall. We came from a time where it’s like, “Oh my god, Serj, I love you guys. Tankian: He was high on something. I just remember we were backstage forever, hoping the weather would change. I met the two rock titans and long time friends in a Los Angeles restaurant in advance of their October shows together in San Bernardino and Sacramento. Boyd: It was our first time, truly such a memorable experience. Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own. Casey Chaos then subsequently sold a 50% interest in the song to Maxwood Music Ltd. And we’ve become better friends because of it. Boyd: There’s a quote, something to the effect of fame is the price you pay for talent. System of a Down (also known abbreviated as SoaD or just simply as System) is an Armenian-American metal band formed in Glendale, California in 1994. I find it more exciting to play places I’ve never played before. Steve Baltin: Do you think about your legacy as you get older? ", it was written in protest against the Iraq War. Remember that one show in Madrid where the roof collapsed (Festimad, 2005)? '”, Tankian: “It’s gotta be organic, it’s gotta feel right in every way. But they were calling for me to go because I supported concrete changes, reforms in Armenia for many years, openly writing to the ex-president and saying, “This is untenable, this is embarrassing.” So the revolution happened, and I ended up flying in early May and going. South Africa, have you guys been there? We went on stage and the crowd was insane. Florence, Italy. Art is intuitive obviously, and you start with that and you grow with that. A lengthy Facebook post from Tankian last month explained why System Of A Down have not released new music and detailed how he wanted to leave the band in 2006. High five, have a good day.”, I have written for Billboard, Rolling Stone, the L.A. Times, Yahoo, Vice and every other major publication as well as host the Hulu interview series Riffing With and. is a song by Armenian-American alternative metal band System of a Down. That’s a different thing. But even in a city you’ve never been to in a country you have. Blast off! Did Japan, all over Indonesia, Thailand. All Rights Reserved, This is a BETA experience. I met the two rock titans and long time friends in a Los Angeles restaurant in advance of their October shows together in San Bernardino and Sacramento. The new music thing, there’s a lot of press going back and forth and I recently made a statement online, on Facebook, explaining the whole hiatus and took responsibility for it.”, Boyd: “You never want to put pressure on those kinds of processes. Now! It was released in March 2005 as the lead single from their fourth album Mezmerize. Cellular One Ringtones - Send Cellular One ringtones to your mobile phone effortlessly. Tankian: Iggy [Pop] was there too, and the Stooges. Incubus and System Of A Down, two of the biggest rock bands of the past 25 years, have toured together multiple times. Baltin: Fame is such a fascinating concept to me. Singer Serj Tankian, front man of the band System of a Down, in concert at Firenze Rocks Festival.... [+] Florence, Italy. Relive Underoath’s electrifying ‘Lost In The Sound Of Separation’ set, Dave Hause doesn’t believe in musical guilty pleasures and neither should you. I don’t know for certain, but you probably had a physical mailing list, right? Tankian: Now it’s international culture. Get the System of a Down Setlist of the concert at Sam Boyd Stadium, Las Vegas, NV, USA on May 20, 2000 and other System of a Down Setlists for free on setlist.fm! Official website for System Of A Down. The one where we did South Africa and India we also did Japan and all over Southeast Asia. System Of A Down last released an album in 2005 with the double LP ‘Mesmerize‘/’Hypnotize‘. “There’s nobody in the band saying, ‘I can’t be in the same room with that guy.’ It’s nothing like that.”, He continued: “It’s more about creative differences; differences on how I want to move forward and how certain other members want to move forward. "B.Y.O.B." It’s like playing basketball together playing a live show together. Boyd: How you get there is a real danger of making it worse and why you see kind of a precipitous decline in a lot of artists’ output as they get older. The singer said: “It’s gotta be organic, it’s gotta feel right in every way. Does this confirm the Hargreeves are in for ‘Umbrella Academy’ season 3? System Of A Down‘s Daron Malakian has said the band aren’t “enemies”, despite their creative differences. © 2020 Forbes Media LLC. He was so jacked up he couldn’t help it. So he couldn’t sleep on a bus either so we’d end up hanging out all night, not sleeping, then drive to the next place, get a day room and sleep like for three or four hours. The video for "B.Y.O.B." Tankian: It’s hard to touch the fastest animal on the planet. Boyd: The thing is understanding in our culture, actually there’s more a shadow aspect to it than there is an advantage. Mr. Bungle was hugely influential to both of our bands, and they were playing second, like before Incubus and System Of A Down. Neither of these bands would be here if it weren’t for this band.”. At the end of the video, the members of System of a Down are shown wearing the drone masks, which are playing static. We go up there and he is standing on the seat, one foot on the seat, one foot on the steering wheel, “I’m surfing, bros.”. Malakian recently called out frontman Serj Tankian, saying he was the reason they took a five-year break, as well as being the reason why they hadn’t recorded new material since. Baltin: Does it also make it more fun to play with bands you’ve known for 25 years? Tankian: Let’s talk about that. https://t.co/DnX3WSO0px #systemofadown #soad2018 #letsdothis pic.twitter.com/osNGFhUx1b, — System of a Down (@systemofadown) April 9, 2018, Dates: I’m drinking coffee to stay up. Boyd: That was scary. A little bit like, ‘Be brilliant now. Not only is our time more and more precious as we realize we’re running out of it, but there’s pressure of really thinking about it now. I think creating the record brings a lot of these intricate personality complex into writing, to the surface. 25th June 2017 (Photo by Francesco Castaldo/Archivio Francesco Castaldo/Mondadori Portfolio via Getty Images), NAPA, CA - MAY 25: Brandon Boyd of Incubus performs during the 2018 BottleRock Napa Valley at Napa... [+] Valley Expo on May 25, 2018 in Napa, California. I’m half asleep. was directed by Jake Nava. It's party time! And then we all ended up going like four hours after our original set time. I have friends who are famous in movies and they can’t sit here in a cafe, they can’t just go for a walk down the beach. I have written for Billboard, Rolling Stone, the L.A. Times, Yahoo, Vice and every other major publication as well as host the Hulu interview series Riffing With and teach music journalism for Grammy Camp. It feels if you or I were to limit ourselves to one creative outlet it would be like robbing you of really essential moments in your life. The group went on hiatus from 2006 through 2011 but haven’t recorded a new album in the seven years since they reunited. Serj Tankian posts statement on why System Of A Down hasn’t released new music, This booze cruise is every ‘Nightmare Before Christmas’ fan’s dream, Hear Miley Cyrus and Stevie Nicks team up for the ultimate mash-up. We ran out of everything. I fly everywhere. Baltin: Is that important, having done it for so long, to still get new experiences? "B.Y.O.B." All over? Baltin: Being asked for so much, how do you determine when to say yes? Brandon Boyd: When we’re young we’re flying by the seat of our pants without thinking too much about it. System Of A Down announced a few months ago that they will be heading out some headlining dates with At The Drive-In and Skeleton Witch this October. That’s why we have a lot of fun. It's party time! It was released in March 2005 as the lead single from their fourth album Mezmerize. There’s a lot out there still. Here is part two of Brandon Boyd and Serj Tankian face to face. So we’re definitely not cancelling.” We didn’t even have water, forget about the food. Banc of California Stadium w/ Korn, Faith No More, Helmet, Russian Circles Last week, Tankian was asked about the prospect of new music from his band by Incubus’ Brandon Boyd in an interview for Forbes. For the last few months we’ve been doing festivals in the States and everything. “I wanted to leave the band before Mezmerize/Hypnotize for these developing reasons,” Tankian wrote.”This is why I personally don’t feel as close to the music on those records. 10/19 – Las Vegas, NV @ T-Mobile Arena. ("Bring Your Own Bombs") is a song by Armenian-American alternative metal band System of a Down. Midway through the video, Daron is shown screaming the words "Blast off! 10/17 – San Diego, CA @ Valley View Casino Center System Of A Down last released an album in 2005 with the double LP ‘, Tankian responded, confirming the guitarist’s story was true, Tankian was asked about the prospect of new music from his band by Incubus’ Brandon Boyd. For roughly a decade, Juliet Simms and Andy Biersack have dominated as the sweethearts of our corner of the music community, sharing an undeniable connection not only as artists but as soulmates. And they get more famous because they were famous. Check out the full list of dates below. At some point, it might make it worse. I had a few of those crazy bus drivers too over the years where I’m like, “I don’t know this guy, but my life is in his hands. Over the years touring here and there, a month here, two months. System Of A Down's Serj Tankian sat down with Incubus frontman Brandon Boyd in a joint interview where he opened up about SOAD's future. Los Angeles, CA, See Instagram photos and videos from System Of A Down (@systemofadown), Music, Film, TV and Political News Coverage. I guess part of it is we’ve all been doing it for a while, so we need that freshness to keep it going. [2] The song reached number 27 on the US Billboard Hot 100, the band's highest peak to date on the chart. I touched a cheetah. So we’re backstage, we’re all waiting to play, we’re hanging out having a good time and we hear the roof has fallen. Tankian: It keeps it fresh so that when you’re actually focusing on your art, whether it’s a painting or a song or a shoot for a film you’re actually fresher because you’re not just doing it over and over again. Boyd: That’s definitely one of the reasons why it’s still fun. The System of a Down singer says the band's long hiatus was his choice, and also explains why they haven't released a new album in 13 years. Incubus' Brandon Boyd And System Of A Down's Serj Tankian Open Up On Fame, Music, Touring And More. [3], "System of a Down is ready to 'Mezmerize' its fans", "Pounding out a blistering attack: System of a Down lashes out at Hollywood, war, and hypocrisy", "Judge Rules for Rock Band in 'B.Y.O.B.' And that’s where fame can be useful, if you apply it for good. You end up going to the same spots because it makes sense. Boyd: But I also believe therein lies a really interesting challenge. SOAD have remained pretty quiet since then, at least until Tankian sat down with Incubus vocalist Brandon Boyd in a joint interview with Forbes.com to discuss the matter a bit further. System of a Down - Official. I remember we got off stage at six AM and you know who was in a worse situation than us?